Ten Metaphysical Questions (`Moggallānasutta`)
Then the wanderer Vacchagotta approached āyasmā Mahāmoggallāna. Having approached, he exchanged cordial greetings with āyasmā Mahāmoggallāna. After exchanging polite and memorable conversation, he sat down to one side. Sitting to one side, the wanderer Vacchagotta said this to āyasmā Mahāmoggallāna—
1800. “Bho Moggallāna, is the world eternal?”
“Vaccha, this has been undeclared by the Bhagavā: ‘the world is eternal.’”
“But Bho Moggallāna, is the world not eternal?”
“Vaccha, this too has been undeclared by the Bhagavā: ‘the world is not eternal.’”
“Bho Moggallāna, is the world finite?”
“Vaccha, this has been undeclared by the Bhagavā: ‘the world is finite.’”
“But Bho Moggallāna, is the world infinite?”
“Vaccha, this too has been undeclared by the Bhagavā: ‘the world is infinite.’”
“Bho Moggallāna, is the soul the same as the body?”
“Vaccha, this has been undeclared by the Bhagavā: ‘
jīvaṃ(the soul) is the same assarīraṃ(the body).’”
“But Bho Moggallāna, is the soul different from the body?”
“Vaccha, this too has been undeclared by the Bhagavā: ‘the soul is different from the body.’”
“Bho Moggallāna, does a Tathāgata remain after death?”
“Vaccha, this has been undeclared by the Bhagavā: ‘a Tathāgata remains after death.’”
“But Bho Moggallāna, does a Tathāgata not remain after death?”
“Vaccha, this too has been undeclared by the Bhagavā: ‘a Tathāgata does not remain after death.’”
“Bho Moggallāna, does a Tathāgata both remain and not remain after death?”
“Vaccha, this has been undeclared by the Bhagavā: ‘a Tathāgata both remains and does not remain after death.’”
“But Bho Moggallāna, does a Tathāgata neither remain nor not remain after death?”
“Vaccha, this too has been undeclared by the Bhagavā: ‘a Tathāgata neither remains nor does not remain after death.’”
1801. “What, Bho Moggallāna, is the reason, what is the cause, why wanderers of other sects, when asked in this way, give such an explanation:
- ‘the world is eternal,’ or
- ‘the world is not eternal,’ or
- ‘the world is finite,’ or
- ‘the world is infinite,’ or
- ‘the soul is the same as the body,’ or
- ‘the soul is different from the body,’ or
- ‘a Tathāgata remains after death,’ or
- ‘a Tathāgata does not remain after death,’ or
- ‘a Tathāgata both remains and does not remain after death,’ or
- ‘a Tathāgata neither remains nor does not remain after death’?
And what, Bho Moggallāna, is the reason, what is the cause, why the
samaṇa(wanderer) Gotama, when asked in this way, does not give such an explanation …
1802. “Vaccha, wanderers of other sects regard
- the eye as ‘This is mine, this I am, this is my self,’…
- the ear as ‘This is mine, this I am, this is my self,’…
- the nose as ‘This is mine, this I am, this is my self,’…
- the tongue as ‘This is mine, this I am, this is my self,’…
- the body as ‘This is mine, this I am, this is my self,’…
- the mind as ‘This is mine, this I am, this is my self.’
Therefore, when wanderers of other sects are asked in this way, they give such an explanation …
But the Tathāgata, Vaccha, the liberated one, the perfectly awakened one, regards
- the eye as ‘This is not mine, this I am not, this is not my self,’…
- the ear as ‘This is not mine, this I am not, this is not my self,’…
- the nose as ‘This is not mine, this I am not, this is not my self,’…
- the tongue as ‘This is not mine, this I am not, this is not my self,’…
- the body as ‘This is not mine, this I am not, this is not my self,’…
- the mind as ‘This is not mine, this I am not, this is not my self.’
Therefore, when the Tathāgata is asked in this way, he does not give such an explanation …”
1800. “Kiṃ nu kho, bho moggallāna, sassato loko”ti? “Abyākataṃ kho etaṃ, vaccha, bhagavatā— ‘sassato loko’”ti. “Kiṃ pana, bho moggallāna, asassato loko”ti? “Etampi kho, vaccha, abyākataṃ bhagavatā— ‘asassato loko’”ti. “Kiṃ nu kho, bho moggallāna, antavā loko”ti? “Abyākataṃ kho etaṃ, vaccha, bhagavatā— ‘antavā loko’”ti. “Kiṃ pana, bho moggallāna, anantavā loko”ti? “Etampi kho, vaccha, abyākataṃ bhagavatā— ‘anantavā loko’”ti. “Kiṃ nu kho, bho moggallāna, taṃ jīvaṃ taṃ sarīran”ti? “Abyākataṃ kho etaṃ, vaccha, bhagavatā— ‘taṃ jīvaṃ taṃ sarīran’”ti. “Kiṃ pana, bho moggallāna, aññaṃ jīvaṃ aññaṃ sarīran”ti? “Etampi kho, vaccha, abyākataṃ bhagavatā— ‘aññaṃ jīvaṃ aññaṃ sarīran’”ti. “Kiṃ nu kho, bho moggallāna, hoti tathāgato paraṃ maraṇā”ti? “Abyākataṃ kho etaṃ, vaccha, bhagavatā— ‘hoti tathāgato paraṃ maraṇā’”ti. “Kiṃ pana, bho moggallāna, na hoti tathāgato paraṃ maraṇā”ti? “Etampi kho, vaccha, abyākataṃ bhagavatā— ‘na hoti tathāgato paraṃ maraṇā’”ti. “Kiṃ nu kho, bho moggallāna, hoti ca na ca hoti tathāgato paraṃ maraṇā”ti? “Abyākataṃ kho etaṃ, vaccha, bhagavatā— ‘hoti ca na ca hoti tathāgato paraṃ maraṇā’”ti. “Kiṃ pana, bho moggallāna, neva hoti na na hoti tathāgato paraṃ maraṇā”ti? “Etampi kho, vaccha, abyākataṃ bhagavatā— ‘neva hoti na na hoti tathāgato paraṃ maraṇā’”ti.
1801. “Ko nu kho, bho moggallāna, hetu ko paccayo, yena aññatitthiyānaṃ paribbājakānaṃ evaṃ puṭṭhānaṃ evaṃ veyyākaraṇaṃ hoti— sassato lokoti vā, asassato lokoti vā, antavā lokoti vā, anantavā lokoti vā, taṃ jīvaṃ taṃ sarīranti vā, aññaṃ jīvaṃ aññaṃ sarīranti vā, hoti tathāgato paraṃ maraṇāti vā, na hoti tathāgato paraṃ maraṇāti vā, hoti ca na ca hoti tathāgato paraṃ maraṇāti vā, neva hoti na na hoti tathāgato paraṃ maraṇāti vā? Ko pana, bho moggallāna, hetu ko paccayo, yena samaṇassa gotamassa evaṃ puṭṭhassa na evaṃ veyyākaraṇaṃ hoti— sassato lokotipi, asassato lokotipi, antavā lokotipi, anantavā lokotipi, taṃ jīvaṃ taṃ sarīrantipi, aññaṃ jīvaṃ aññaṃ sarīrantipi, hoti tathāgato paraṃ maraṇātipi, na hoti tathāgato paraṃ maraṇātipi, hoti ca na ca hoti tathāgato paraṃ maraṇātipi, neva hoti na na hoti tathāgato paraṃ maraṇātipī”ti?
1802. “Aññatitthiyā kho, vaccha, paribbājakā cakkhuṃ ‘etaṃ mama, esohamasmi, eso me attā’ti samanupassanti…pe… jivhaṃ ‘etaṃ mama, esohamasmi, eso me attā’ti samanupassanti…pe… manaṃ ‘etaṃ mama, esohamasmi, eso me attā’ti samanupassanti. Tasmā aññatitthiyānaṃ paribbājakānaṃ evaṃ puṭṭhānaṃ evaṃ veyyākaraṇaṃ hoti— sassato lokoti vā…pe… neva hoti na na hoti tathāgato paraṃ maraṇāti vā. Tathāgato ca kho, vaccha, arahaṃ sammāsambuddho cakkhuṃ ‘netaṃ mama, nesohamasmi, na meso attā’ti samanupassati…pe… jivhaṃ ‘netaṃ mama, nesohamasmi, na meso attā’ti samanupassati…pe… manaṃ ‘netaṃ mama, nesohamasmi, na meso attā’ti samanupassati. Tasmā tathāgatassa evaṃ puṭṭhassa na evaṃ veyyākaraṇaṃ hoti— sassato lokotipi…pe… neva hoti na na hoti tathāgato paraṃ maraṇātipī”ti.
1800. “𑀓𑀺𑀁 𑀦𑀼 𑀔𑁄, 𑀪𑁄 𑀫𑁄𑀕𑁆𑀕𑀮𑁆𑀮𑀸𑀦, 𑀲𑀲𑁆𑀲𑀢𑁄 𑀮𑁄𑀓𑁄”𑀢𑀺? “𑀅𑀩𑁆𑀬𑀸𑀓𑀢𑀁 𑀔𑁄 𑀏𑀢𑀁, 𑀯𑀘𑁆𑀙, 𑀪𑀕𑀯𑀢𑀸— ‘𑀲𑀲𑁆𑀲𑀢𑁄 𑀮𑁄𑀓𑁄’”𑀢𑀺. “𑀓𑀺𑀁 𑀧𑀦, 𑀪𑁄 𑀫𑁄𑀕𑁆𑀕𑀮𑁆𑀮𑀸𑀦, 𑀅𑀲𑀲𑁆𑀲𑀢𑁄 𑀮𑁄𑀓𑁄”𑀢𑀺? “𑀏𑀢𑀫𑁆𑀧𑀺 𑀔𑁄, 𑀯𑀘𑁆𑀙, 𑀅𑀩𑁆𑀬𑀸𑀓𑀢𑀁 𑀪𑀕𑀯𑀢𑀸— ‘𑀅𑀲𑀲𑁆𑀲𑀢𑁄 𑀮𑁄𑀓𑁄’”𑀢𑀺. “𑀓𑀺𑀁 𑀦𑀼 𑀔𑁄, 𑀪𑁄 𑀫𑁄𑀕𑁆𑀕𑀮𑁆𑀮𑀸𑀦, 𑀅𑀦𑁆𑀢𑀯𑀸 𑀮𑁄𑀓𑁄”𑀢𑀺? “𑀅𑀩𑁆𑀬𑀸𑀓𑀢𑀁 𑀔𑁄 𑀏𑀢𑀁, 𑀯𑀘𑁆𑀙, 𑀪𑀕𑀯𑀢𑀸— ‘𑀅𑀦𑁆𑀢𑀯𑀸 𑀮𑁄𑀓𑁄’”𑀢𑀺. “𑀓𑀺𑀁 𑀧𑀦, 𑀪𑁄 𑀫𑁄𑀕𑁆𑀕𑀮𑁆𑀮𑀸𑀦, 𑀅𑀦𑀦𑁆𑀢𑀯𑀸 𑀮𑁄𑀓𑁄”𑀢𑀺? “𑀏𑀢𑀫𑁆𑀧𑀺 𑀔𑁄, 𑀯𑀘𑁆𑀙, 𑀅𑀩𑁆𑀬𑀸𑀓𑀢𑀁 𑀪𑀕𑀯𑀢𑀸— ‘𑀅𑀦𑀦𑁆𑀢𑀯𑀸 𑀮𑁄𑀓𑁄’”𑀢𑀺. “𑀓𑀺𑀁 𑀦𑀼 𑀔𑁄, 𑀪𑁄 𑀫𑁄𑀕𑁆𑀕𑀮𑁆𑀮𑀸𑀦, 𑀢𑀁 𑀚𑀻𑀯𑀁 𑀢𑀁 𑀲𑀭𑀻𑀭𑀦𑁆”𑀢𑀺? “𑀅𑀩𑁆𑀬𑀸𑀓𑀢𑀁 𑀔𑁄 𑀏𑀢𑀁, 𑀯𑀘𑁆𑀙, 𑀪𑀕𑀯𑀢𑀸— ‘𑀢𑀁 𑀚𑀻𑀯𑀁 𑀢𑀁 𑀲𑀭𑀻𑀭𑀦𑁆’”𑀢𑀺. “𑀓𑀺𑀁 𑀧𑀦, 𑀪𑁄 𑀫𑁄𑀕𑁆𑀕𑀮𑁆𑀮𑀸𑀦, 𑀅𑀜𑁆𑀜𑀁 𑀚𑀻𑀯𑀁 𑀅𑀜𑁆𑀜𑀁 𑀲𑀭𑀻𑀭𑀦𑁆”𑀢𑀺? “𑀏𑀢𑀫𑁆𑀧𑀺 𑀔𑁄, 𑀯𑀘𑁆𑀙, 𑀅𑀩𑁆𑀬𑀸𑀓𑀢𑀁 𑀪𑀕𑀯𑀢𑀸— ‘𑀅𑀜𑁆𑀜𑀁 𑀚𑀻𑀯𑀁 𑀅𑀜𑁆𑀜𑀁 𑀲𑀭𑀻𑀭𑀦𑁆’”𑀢𑀺. “𑀓𑀺𑀁 𑀦𑀼 𑀔𑁄, 𑀪𑁄 𑀫𑁄𑀕𑁆𑀕𑀮𑁆𑀮𑀸𑀦, 𑀳𑁄𑀢𑀺 𑀢𑀣𑀸𑀕𑀢𑁄 𑀧𑀭𑀁 𑀫𑀭𑀡𑀸”𑀢𑀺? “𑀅𑀩𑁆𑀬𑀸𑀓𑀢𑀁 𑀔𑁄 𑀏𑀢𑀁, 𑀯𑀘𑁆𑀙, 𑀪𑀕𑀯𑀢𑀸— ‘𑀳𑁄𑀢𑀺 𑀢𑀣𑀸𑀕𑀢𑁄 𑀧𑀭𑀁 𑀫𑀭𑀡𑀸’”𑀢𑀺. “𑀓𑀺𑀁 𑀧𑀦, 𑀪𑁄 𑀫𑁄𑀕𑁆𑀕𑀮𑁆𑀮𑀸𑀦, 𑀦 𑀳𑁄𑀢𑀺 𑀢𑀣𑀸𑀕𑀢𑁄 𑀧𑀭𑀁 𑀫𑀭𑀡𑀸”𑀢𑀺? “𑀏𑀢𑀫𑁆𑀧𑀺 𑀔𑁄, 𑀯𑀘𑁆𑀙, 𑀅𑀩𑁆𑀬𑀸𑀓𑀢𑀁 𑀪𑀕𑀯𑀢𑀸— ‘𑀦 𑀳𑁄𑀢𑀺 𑀢𑀣𑀸𑀕𑀢𑁄 𑀧𑀭𑀁 𑀫𑀭𑀡𑀸’”𑀢𑀺. “𑀓𑀺𑀁 𑀦𑀼 𑀔𑁄, 𑀪𑁄 𑀫𑁄𑀕𑁆𑀕𑀮𑁆𑀮𑀸𑀦, 𑀳𑁄𑀢𑀺 𑀘 𑀦 𑀘 𑀳𑁄𑀢𑀺 𑀢𑀣𑀸𑀕𑀢𑁄 𑀧𑀭𑀁 𑀫𑀭𑀡𑀸”𑀢𑀺? “𑀅𑀩𑁆𑀬𑀸𑀓𑀢𑀁 𑀔𑁄 𑀏𑀢𑀁, 𑀯𑀘𑁆𑀙, 𑀪𑀕𑀯𑀢𑀸— ‘𑀳𑁄𑀢𑀺 𑀘 𑀦 𑀘 𑀳𑁄𑀢𑀺 𑀢𑀣𑀸𑀕𑀢𑁄 𑀧𑀭𑀁 𑀫𑀭𑀡𑀸’”𑀢𑀺. “𑀓𑀺𑀁 𑀧𑀦, 𑀪𑁄 𑀫𑁄𑀕𑁆𑀕𑀮𑁆𑀮𑀸𑀦, 𑀦𑁂𑀯 𑀳𑁄𑀢𑀺 𑀦 𑀦 𑀳𑁄𑀢𑀺 𑀢𑀣𑀸𑀕𑀢𑁄 𑀧𑀭𑀁 𑀫𑀭𑀡𑀸”𑀢𑀺? “𑀏𑀢𑀫𑁆𑀧𑀺 𑀔𑁄, 𑀯𑀘𑁆𑀙, 𑀅𑀩𑁆𑀬𑀸𑀓𑀢𑀁 𑀪𑀕𑀯𑀢𑀸— ‘𑀦𑁂𑀯 𑀳𑁄𑀢𑀺 𑀦 𑀦 𑀳𑁄𑀢𑀺 𑀢𑀣𑀸𑀕𑀢𑁄 𑀧𑀭𑀁 𑀫𑀭𑀡𑀸’”𑀢𑀺.
1801. “𑀓𑁄 𑀦𑀼 𑀔𑁄, 𑀪𑁄 𑀫𑁄𑀕𑁆𑀕𑀮𑁆𑀮𑀸𑀦, 𑀳𑁂𑀢𑀼 𑀓𑁄 𑀧𑀘𑁆𑀘𑀬𑁄, 𑀬𑁂𑀦 𑀅𑀜𑁆𑀜𑀢𑀺𑀢𑁆𑀣𑀺𑀬𑀸𑀦𑀁 𑀧𑀭𑀺𑀩𑁆𑀩𑀸𑀚𑀓𑀸𑀦𑀁 𑀏𑀯𑀁 𑀧𑀼𑀝𑁆𑀞𑀸𑀦𑀁 𑀏𑀯𑀁 𑀯𑁂𑀬𑁆𑀬𑀸𑀓𑀭𑀡𑀁 𑀳𑁄𑀢𑀺— 𑀲𑀲𑁆𑀲𑀢𑁄 𑀮𑁄𑀓𑁄𑀢𑀺 𑀯𑀸, 𑀅𑀲𑀲𑁆𑀲𑀢𑁄 𑀮𑁄𑀓𑁄𑀢𑀺 𑀯𑀸, 𑀅𑀦𑁆𑀢𑀯𑀸 𑀮𑁄𑀓𑁄𑀢𑀺 𑀯𑀸, 𑀅𑀦𑀦𑁆𑀢𑀯𑀸 𑀮𑁄𑀓𑁄𑀢𑀺 𑀯𑀸, 𑀢𑀁 𑀚𑀻𑀯𑀁 𑀢𑀁 𑀲𑀭𑀻𑀭𑀦𑁆𑀢𑀺 𑀯𑀸, 𑀅𑀜𑁆𑀜𑀁 𑀚𑀻𑀯𑀁 𑀅𑀜𑁆𑀜𑀁 𑀲𑀭𑀻𑀭𑀦𑁆𑀢𑀺 𑀯𑀸, 𑀳𑁄𑀢𑀺 𑀢𑀣𑀸𑀕𑀢𑁄 𑀧𑀭𑀁 𑀫𑀭𑀡𑀸𑀢𑀺 𑀯𑀸, 𑀦 𑀳𑁄𑀢𑀺 𑀢𑀣𑀸𑀕𑀢𑁄 𑀧𑀭𑀁 𑀫𑀭𑀡𑀸𑀢𑀺 𑀯𑀸, 𑀳𑁄𑀢𑀺 𑀘 𑀦 𑀘 𑀳𑁄𑀢𑀺 𑀢𑀣𑀸𑀕𑀢𑁄 𑀧𑀭𑀁 𑀫𑀭𑀡𑀸𑀢𑀺 𑀯𑀸, 𑀦𑁂𑀯 𑀳𑁄𑀢𑀺 𑀦 𑀦 𑀳𑁄𑀢𑀺 𑀢𑀣𑀸𑀕𑀢𑁄 𑀧𑀭𑀁 𑀫𑀭𑀡𑀸𑀢𑀺 𑀯𑀸? 𑀓𑁄 𑀧𑀦, 𑀪𑁄 𑀫𑁄𑀕𑁆𑀕𑀮𑁆𑀮𑀸𑀦, 𑀳𑁂𑀢𑀼 𑀓𑁄 𑀧𑀘𑁆𑀘𑀬𑁄, 𑀬𑁂𑀦 𑀲𑀫𑀡𑀲𑁆𑀲 𑀕𑁄𑀢𑀫𑀲𑁆𑀲 𑀏𑀯𑀁 𑀧𑀼𑀝𑁆𑀞𑀲𑁆𑀲 𑀦 𑀏𑀯𑀁 𑀯𑁂𑀬𑁆𑀬𑀸𑀓𑀭𑀡𑀁 𑀳𑁄𑀢𑀺— 𑀲𑀲𑁆𑀲𑀢𑁄 𑀮𑁄𑀓𑁄𑀢𑀺𑀧𑀺, 𑀅𑀲𑀲𑁆𑀲𑀢𑁄 𑀮𑁄𑀓𑁄𑀢𑀺𑀧𑀺, 𑀅𑀦𑁆𑀢𑀯𑀸 𑀮𑁄𑀓𑁄𑀢𑀺𑀧𑀺, 𑀅𑀦𑀦𑁆𑀢𑀯𑀸 𑀮𑁄𑀓𑁄𑀢𑀺𑀧𑀺, 𑀢𑀁 𑀚𑀻𑀯𑀁 𑀢𑀁 𑀲𑀭𑀻𑀭𑀦𑁆𑀢𑀺𑀧𑀺, 𑀅𑀜𑁆𑀜𑀁 𑀚𑀻𑀯𑀁 𑀅𑀜𑁆𑀜𑀁 𑀲𑀭𑀻𑀭𑀦𑁆𑀢𑀺𑀧𑀺, 𑀳𑁄𑀢𑀺 𑀢𑀣𑀸𑀕𑀢𑁄 𑀧𑀭𑀁 𑀫𑀭𑀡𑀸𑀢𑀺𑀧𑀺, 𑀦 𑀳𑁄𑀢𑀺 𑀢𑀣𑀸𑀕𑀢𑁄 𑀧𑀭𑀁 𑀫𑀭𑀡𑀸𑀢𑀺𑀧𑀺, 𑀳𑁄𑀢𑀺 𑀘 𑀦 𑀘 𑀳𑁄𑀢𑀺 𑀢𑀣𑀸𑀕𑀢𑁄 𑀧𑀭𑀁 𑀫𑀭𑀡𑀸𑀢𑀺𑀧𑀺, 𑀦𑁂𑀯 𑀳𑁄𑀢𑀺 𑀦 𑀦 𑀳𑁄𑀢𑀺 𑀢𑀣𑀸𑀕𑀢𑁄 𑀧𑀭𑀁 𑀫𑀭𑀡𑀸𑀢𑀺𑀧𑀻”𑀢𑀺?
1802. “𑀅𑀜𑁆𑀜𑀢𑀺𑀢𑁆𑀣𑀺𑀬𑀸 𑀔𑁄, 𑀯𑀘𑁆𑀙, 𑀧𑀭𑀺𑀩𑁆𑀩𑀸𑀚𑀓𑀸 𑀘𑀓𑁆𑀔𑀼𑀁 ‘𑀏𑀢𑀁 𑀫𑀫, 𑀏𑀲𑁄𑀳𑀫𑀲𑁆𑀫𑀺, 𑀏𑀲𑁄 𑀫𑁂 𑀅𑀢𑁆𑀢𑀸’𑀢𑀺 𑀲𑀫𑀦𑀼𑀧𑀲𑁆𑀲𑀦𑁆𑀢𑀺…𑀧𑁂… 𑀚𑀺𑀯𑁆𑀳𑀁 ‘𑀏𑀢𑀁 𑀫𑀫, 𑀏𑀲𑁄𑀳𑀫𑀲𑁆𑀫𑀺, 𑀏𑀲𑁄 𑀫𑁂 𑀅𑀢𑁆𑀢𑀸’𑀢𑀺 𑀲𑀫𑀦𑀼𑀧𑀲𑁆𑀲𑀦𑁆𑀢𑀺…𑀧𑁂… 𑀫𑀦𑀁 ‘𑀏𑀢𑀁 𑀫𑀫, 𑀏𑀲𑁄𑀳𑀫𑀲𑁆𑀫𑀺, 𑀏𑀲𑁄 𑀫𑁂 𑀅𑀢𑁆𑀢𑀸’𑀢𑀺 𑀲𑀫𑀦𑀼𑀧𑀲𑁆𑀲𑀦𑁆𑀢𑀺. 𑀢𑀲𑁆𑀫𑀸 𑀅𑀜𑁆𑀜𑀢𑀺𑀢𑁆𑀣𑀺𑀬𑀸𑀦𑀁 𑀧𑀭𑀺𑀩𑁆𑀩𑀸𑀚𑀓𑀸𑀦𑀁 𑀏𑀯𑀁 𑀧𑀼𑀝𑁆𑀞𑀸𑀦𑀁 𑀏𑀯𑀁 𑀯𑁂𑀬𑁆𑀬𑀸𑀓𑀭𑀡𑀁 𑀳𑁄𑀢𑀺— 𑀲𑀲𑁆𑀲𑀢𑁄 𑀮𑁄𑀓𑁄𑀢𑀺 𑀯𑀸…𑀧𑁂… 𑀦𑁂𑀯 𑀳𑁄𑀢𑀺 𑀦 𑀦 𑀳𑁄𑀢𑀺 𑀢𑀣𑀸𑀕𑀢𑁄 𑀧𑀭𑀁 𑀫𑀭𑀡𑀸𑀢𑀺 𑀯𑀸. 𑀢𑀣𑀸𑀕𑀢𑁄 𑀘 𑀔𑁄, 𑀯𑀘𑁆𑀙, 𑀅𑀭𑀳𑀁 𑀲𑀫𑁆𑀫𑀸𑀲𑀫𑁆𑀩𑀼𑀤𑁆𑀥𑁄 𑀘𑀓𑁆𑀔𑀼𑀁 ‘𑀦𑁂𑀢𑀁 𑀫𑀫, 𑀦𑁂𑀲𑁄𑀳𑀫𑀲𑁆𑀫𑀺, 𑀦 𑀫𑁂𑀲𑁄 𑀅𑀢𑁆𑀢𑀸’𑀢𑀺 𑀲𑀫𑀦𑀼𑀧𑀲𑁆𑀲𑀢𑀺…𑀧𑁂… 𑀚𑀺𑀯𑁆𑀳𑀁 ‘𑀦𑁂𑀢𑀁 𑀫𑀫, 𑀦𑁂𑀲𑁄𑀳𑀫𑀲𑁆𑀫𑀺, 𑀦 𑀫𑁂𑀲𑁄 𑀅𑀢𑁆𑀢𑀸’𑀢𑀺 𑀲𑀫𑀦𑀼𑀧𑀲𑁆𑀲𑀢𑀺…𑀧𑁂… 𑀫𑀦𑀁 ‘𑀦𑁂𑀢𑀁 𑀫𑀫, 𑀦𑁂𑀲𑁄𑀳𑀫𑀲𑁆𑀫𑀺, 𑀦 𑀫𑁂𑀲𑁄 𑀅𑀢𑁆𑀢𑀸’𑀢𑀺 𑀲𑀫𑀦𑀼𑀧𑀲𑁆𑀲𑀢𑀺. 𑀢𑀲𑁆𑀫𑀸 𑀢𑀣𑀸𑀕𑀢𑀲𑁆𑀲 𑀏𑀯𑀁 𑀧𑀼𑀝𑁆𑀞𑀲𑁆𑀲 𑀦 𑀏𑀯𑀁 𑀯𑁂𑀬𑁆𑀬𑀸𑀓𑀭𑀡𑀁 𑀳𑁄𑀢𑀺— 𑀲𑀲𑁆𑀲𑀢𑁄 𑀮𑁄𑀓𑁄𑀢𑀺𑀧𑀺…𑀧𑁂… 𑀦𑁂𑀯 𑀳𑁄𑀢𑀺 𑀦 𑀦 𑀳𑁄𑀢𑀺 𑀢𑀣𑀸𑀕𑀢𑁄 𑀧𑀭𑀁 𑀫𑀭𑀡𑀸𑀢𑀺𑀧𑀻”𑀢𑀺.
1800.1 “Kiṃ nu kho, bho moggallāna, sassato loko”ti?
⏏️(kiṃ) ⏏️(nu) ⏏️(kho) 🚹⨀⓪(bhavant) 🚹⨀⓪(moggallāna) 🚹⨀①(sassata) 🚹⨀①(loka) ⏏️(iti)
(question) | (question) | indeed | Bho | Moggallāna | eternal | the world | (end quote)
“Bho Moggallāna, is the world eternal?”
1800.2 “Abyākataṃ kho etaṃ, vaccha, bhagavatā— ‘sassato loko’”ti.
🚻⨀①🔽(ta)🆎(na+byākata) ⏏️(kho) *️⃣🤟🚻⨀①(eta) 🚹⨀⓪(vaccha) 🚹⨀③(bhagavant) 🚹⨀①(sassata) 🚹⨀①(loka) ⏏️(iti)
undeclared | indeed | this | Vaccha | by the Bhagavā | eternal | the world | (end quote)
“Vaccha, this has been undeclared by the Bhagavā: ‘the world is eternal.’”
1800.3 “Kiṃ pana, bho moggallāna, asassato loko”ti?
⏏️(kiṃ) ⏏️(pana) 🚹⨀⓪(bhavant) 🚹⨀⓪(moggallāna) 🚹⨀①🆎(na+sassata) 🚹⨀①(loka) ⏏️(iti)
(question) | but | Bho | Moggallāna | not eternal | the world | (end quote)
“But Bho Moggallāna, is the world not eternal?”
1800.4 “Etampi kho, vaccha, abyākataṃ bhagavatā— ‘asassato loko’”ti.
*️⃣🤟🚻⨀①(eta) ⏏️(api) ⏏️(kho) 🚹⨀⓪(vaccha) 🚻⨀①🔽(ta)🆎(na+byākata) 🚹⨀③(bhagavant) 🚹⨀①🆎(na+sassata) 🚹⨀①(loka) ⏏️(iti)
this | too | indeed | Vaccha | undeclared | by the Bhagavā | not eternal | the world | (end quote)
“Vaccha, this too has been undeclared by the Bhagavā: ‘the world is not eternal.’”
1800.5 “Kiṃ nu kho, bho moggallāna, antavā loko”ti?
⏏️(kiṃ) ⏏️(nu) ⏏️(kho) 🚹⨀⓪(bhavant) 🚹⨀⓪(moggallāna) 🚹⨀①🔽(vantu)(antavant) 🚹⨀①(loka) ⏏️(iti)
(question) | (question) | indeed | Bho | Moggallāna | finite | the world | (end quote)
“Bho Moggallāna, is the world finite?”
1800.6 “Abyākataṃ kho etaṃ, vaccha, bhagavatā— ‘antavā loko’”ti.
🚻⨀①🔽(ta)🆎(na+byākata) ⏏️(kho) *️⃣🤟🚻⨀①(eta) 🚹⨀⓪(vaccha) 🚹⨀③(bhagavant) 🚹⨀①🔽(vantu)(antavant) 🚹⨀①(loka) ⏏️(iti)
undeclared | indeed | this | Vaccha | by the Bhagavā | finite | the world | (end quote)
“Vaccha, this has been undeclared by the Bhagavā: ‘the world is finite.’”
1800.7 “Kiṃ pana, bho moggallāna, anantavā loko”ti?
⏏️(kiṃ) ⏏️(pana) 🚹⨀⓪(bhavant) 🚹⨀⓪(moggallāna) 🚹⨀①🔽(vantu)🆎(na+antavant) 🚹⨀①(loka) ⏏️(iti)
(question) | but | Bho | Moggallāna | infinite | the world | (end quote)
“But Bho Moggallāna, is the world infinite?”
1800.8 “Etampi kho, vaccha, abyākataṃ bhagavatā— ‘anantavā loko’”ti.
*️⃣🤟🚻⨀①(eta) ⏏️(api) ⏏️(kho) 🚹⨀⓪(vaccha) 🚻⨀①🔽(ta)🆎(na+byākata) 🚹⨀③(bhagavant) 🚹⨀①🔽(vantu)🆎(na+antavant) 🚹⨀①(loka) ⏏️(iti)
this | too | indeed | Vaccha | undeclared | by the Bhagavā | infinite | the world | (end quote)
“Vaccha, this too has been undeclared by the Bhagavā: ‘the world is infinite.’”
1800.9 “Kiṃ nu kho, bho moggallāna, taṃ jīvaṃ taṃ sarīran”ti?
⏏️(kiṃ) ⏏️(nu) ⏏️(kho) 🚹⨀⓪(bhavant) 🚹⨀⓪(moggallāna) *️⃣🤟🚻⨀①(ta) 🚻⨀①(jīva) *️⃣🤟🚻⨀①(ta) 🚻⨀①(sarīra) ⏏️(iti)
(question) | (question) | indeed | Bho | Moggallāna | that | the soul | that | the body | (end quote)
“Bho Moggallāna, is the soul the same as the body?”
1800.10 “Abyākataṃ kho etaṃ, vaccha, bhagavatā— ‘taṃ jīvaṃ taṃ sarīran’”ti.
🚻⨀①🔽(ta)🆎(na+byākata) ⏏️(kho) *️⃣🤟🚻⨀①(eta) 🚹⨀⓪(vaccha) 🚹⨀③(bhagavant) *️⃣🤟🚻⨀①(ta) 🚻⨀①(jīva) *️⃣🤟🚻⨀①(ta) 🚻⨀①(sarīra) ⏏️(iti)
undeclared | indeed | this | Vaccha | by the Bhagavā | that | the soul | that | the body | (end quote)
“Vaccha, this has been undeclared by the Bhagavā: ‘jīvaṃ (the soul) is the same as sarīraṃ (the body).’”
1800.11 “Kiṃ pana, bho moggallāna, aññaṃ jīvaṃ aññaṃ sarīran”ti?
⏏️(kiṃ) ⏏️(pana) 🚹⨀⓪(bhavant) 🚹⨀⓪(moggallāna) *️⃣🤟🚻⨀①(añña) 🚻⨀①(jīva) *️⃣🤟🚻⨀①(añña) 🚻⨀①(sarīra) ⏏️(iti)
(question) | but | Bho | Moggallāna | another | the soul | another | the body | (end quote)
“But Bho Moggallāna, is the soul different from the body?”
1800.12 “Etampi kho, vaccha, abyākataṃ bhagavatā— ‘aññaṃ jīvaṃ aññaṃ sarīran’”ti.
*️⃣🤟🚻⨀①(eta) ⏏️(api) ⏏️(kho) 🚹⨀⓪(vaccha) 🚻⨀①🔽(ta)🆎(na+byākata) 🚹⨀③(bhagavant) *️⃣🤟🚻⨀①(añña) 🚻⨀①(jīva) *️⃣🤟🚻⨀①(añña) 🚻⨀①(sarīra) ⏏️(iti)
this | too | indeed | Vaccha | undeclared | by the Bhagavā | another | the soul | another | the body | (end quote)
“Vaccha, this too has been undeclared by the Bhagavā: ‘the soul is different from the body.’”
1800.13 “Kiṃ nu kho, bho moggallāna, hoti tathāgato paraṃ maraṇā”ti?
⏏️(kiṃ) ⏏️(nu) ⏏️(kho) 🚹⨀⓪(bhavant) 🚹⨀⓪(moggallāna) 🟢⨀🤟▶️(hoti) 🚹⨀①🆎(tathā+gata) ⏏️(paraṃ) 🚻⨀⑤(maraṇa) ⏏️(iti)
(question) | (question) | indeed | Bho | Moggallāna | remains | the Tathāgata | after | from death | (end quote)
“Bho Moggallāna, does a Tathāgata remain after death?”
1800.14 “Abyākataṃ kho etaṃ, vaccha, bhagavatā— ‘hoti tathāgato paraṃ maraṇā’”ti.
🚻⨀①🔽(ta)🆎(na+byākata) ⏏️(kho) *️⃣🤟🚻⨀①(eta) 🚹⨀⓪(vaccha) 🚹⨀③(bhagavant) 🟢⨀🤟▶️(hoti) 🚹⨀①🆎(tathā+gata) ⏏️(paraṃ) 🚻⨀⑤(maraṇa) ⏏️(iti)
undeclared | indeed | this | Vaccha | by the Bhagavā | remains | the Tathāgata | after | from death | (end quote)
“Vaccha, this has been undeclared by the Bhagavā: ‘a Tathāgata remains after death.’”
1800.15 “Kiṃ pana, bho moggallāna, na hoti tathāgato paraṃ maraṇā”ti?
⏏️(kiṃ) ⏏️(pana) 🚹⨀⓪(bhavant) 🚹⨀⓪(moggallāna) ⏏️(na) 🟢⨀🤟▶️(hoti) 🚹⨀①🆎(tathā+gata) ⏏️(paraṃ) 🚻⨀⑤(maraṇa) ⏏️(iti)
(question) | but | Bho | Moggallāna | not | remains | the Tathāgata | after | from death | (end quote)
“But Bho Moggallāna, does a Tathāgata not remain after death?”
1800.16 “Etampi kho, vaccha, abyākataṃ bhagavatā— ‘na hoti tathāgato paraṃ maraṇā’”ti.
*️⃣🤟🚻⨀①(eta) ⏏️(api) ⏏️(kho) 🚹⨀⓪(vaccha) 🚻⨀①🔽(ta)🆎(na+byākata) 🚹⨀③(bhagavant) ⏏️(na) 🟢⨀🤟▶️(hoti) 🚹⨀①🆎(tathā+gata) ⏏️(paraṃ) 🚻⨀⑤(maraṇa) ⏏️(iti)
this | too | indeed | Vaccha | undeclared | by the Bhagavā | not | remains | the Tathāgata | after | from death | (end quote)
“Vaccha, this too has been undeclared by the Bhagavā: ‘a Tathāgata does not remain after death.’”
1800.17 “Kiṃ nu kho, bho moggallāna, hoti ca na ca hoti tathāgato paraṃ maraṇā”ti?
⏏️(kiṃ) ⏏️(nu) ⏏️(kho) 🚹⨀⓪(bhavant) 🚹⨀⓪(moggallāna) 🟢⨀🤟▶️(hoti) ⏏️(ca) ⏏️(na) ⏏️(ca) 🟢⨀🤟▶️(hoti) 🚹⨀①🆎(tathā+gata) ⏏️(paraṃ) 🚻⨀⑤(maraṇa) ⏏️(iti)
(question) | (question) | indeed | Bho | Moggallāna | remains | both | not | and | remains | the Tathāgata | after | from death | (end quote)
“Bho Moggallāna, does a Tathāgata both remain and not remain after death?”
1800.18 “Abyākataṃ kho etaṃ, vaccha, bhagavatā— ‘hoti ca na ca hoti tathāgato paraṃ maraṇā’”ti.
🚻⨀①🔽(ta)🆎(na+byākata) ⏏️(kho) *️⃣🤟🚻⨀①(eta) 🚹⨀⓪(vaccha) 🚹⨀③(bhagavant) 🟢⨀🤟▶️(hoti) ⏏️(ca) ⏏️(na) ⏏️(ca) 🟢⨀🤟▶️(hoti) 🚹⨀①🆎(tathā+gata) ⏏️(paraṃ) 🚻⨀⑤(maraṇa) ⏏️(iti)
undeclared | indeed | this | Vaccha | by the Bhagavā | remains | both | not | and | remains | the Tathāgata | after | from death | (end quote)
“Vaccha, this has been undeclared by the Bhagavā: ‘a Tathāgata both remains and does not remain after death.’”
1800.19 “Kiṃ pana, bho moggallāna, neva hoti na na hoti tathāgato paraṃ maraṇā”ti?
⏏️(kiṃ) ⏏️(pana) 🚹⨀⓪(bhavant) 🚹⨀⓪(moggallāna) ⏏️(na) ⏏️(eva) 🟢⨀🤟▶️(hoti) ⏏️(na) ⏏️(na) 🟢⨀🤟▶️(hoti) 🚹⨀①🆎(tathā+gata) ⏏️(paraṃ) 🚻⨀⑤(maraṇa) ⏏️(iti)
(question) | but | Bho | Moggallāna | not | just | remains | not | not | remains | the Tathāgata | after | from death | (end quote)
“But Bho Moggallāna, does a Tathāgata neither remain nor not remain after death?”
1800.20 “Etampi kho, vaccha, abyākataṃ bhagavatā— ‘neva hoti na na hoti tathāgato paraṃ maraṇā’”ti.
*️⃣🤟🚻⨀①(eta) ⏏️(api) ⏏️(kho) 🚹⨀⓪(vaccha) 🚻⨀①🔽(ta)🆎(na+byākata) 🚹⨀③(bhagavant) ⏏️(na) ⏏️(eva) 🟢⨀🤟▶️(hoti) ⏏️(na) ⏏️(na) 🟢⨀🤟▶️(hoti) 🚹⨀①🆎(tathā+gata) ⏏️(paraṃ) 🚻⨀⑤(maraṇa) ⏏️(iti)
this | too | indeed | Vaccha | undeclared | by the Bhagavā | not | just | remains | not | not | remains | the Tathāgata | after | from death | (end quote)
“Vaccha, this too has been undeclared by the Bhagavā: ‘a Tathāgata neither remains nor does not remain after death.’”
1801.1 “Ko nu kho, bho moggallāna, hetu ko paccayo, yena aññatitthiyānaṃ paribbājakānaṃ evaṃ puṭṭhānaṃ evaṃ veyyākaraṇaṃ hoti— sassato lokoti vā, asassato lokoti vā, antavā lokoti vā, anantavā lokoti vā, taṃ jīvaṃ taṃ sarīranti vā, aññaṃ jīvaṃ aññaṃ sarīranti vā, hoti tathāgato paraṃ maraṇāti vā, na hoti tathāgato paraṃ maraṇāti vā, hoti ca na ca hoti tathāgato paraṃ maraṇāti vā, neva hoti na na hoti tathāgato paraṃ maraṇāti vā?
*️⃣🤟🚹⨀①(kiṃ) ⏏️(nu) ⏏️(kho) 🚹⨀⓪(bhavant) 🚹⨀⓪(moggallāna) 🚹⨀①(hetu) *️⃣🤟🚹⨀①(kiṃ) 🚹⨀①(paccaya) *️⃣🤟🚹⨀③(ya) 🚹⨂⑥🆎(añña+titthiya) 🚹⨂⑥(paribbājaka) ⏏️(evaṃ) 🚹⨂⑥🔽(ta)(puṭṭha) ⏏️(evaṃ) 🚻⨀①(veyyākaraṇa) 🟢⨀🤟▶️(hoti) 🚹⨀①(sassata) 🚹⨀①(loka) ⏏️(iti) ⏏️(vā) 🚹⨀①🆎(na+sassata) 🚹⨀①(loka) ⏏️(iti) ⏏️(vā) 🚹⨀①🔽(vantu)(antavant) 🚹⨀①(loka) ⏏️(iti) ⏏️(vā) 🚹⨀①🔽(vantu)🆎(na+antavant) 🚹⨀①(loka) ⏏️(iti) ⏏️(vā) *️⃣🤟🚻⨀①(ta) 🚻⨀①(jīva) *️⃣🤟🚻⨀①(ta) 🚻⨀①(sarīra) ⏏️(iti) ⏏️(vā) *️⃣🤟🚻⨀①(añña) 🚻⨀①(jīva) *️⃣🤟🚻⨀①(añña) 🚻⨀①(sarīra) ⏏️(iti) ⏏️(vā) 🟢⨀🤟▶️(hoti) 🚹⨀①🆎(tathā+gata) ⏏️(paraṃ) 🚻⨀⑤(maraṇa) ⏏️(iti) ⏏️(vā) ⏏️(na) 🟢⨀🤟▶️(hoti) 🚹⨀①🆎(tathā+gata) ⏏️(paraṃ) 🚻⨀⑤(maraṇa) ⏏️(iti) ⏏️(vā) 🟢⨀🤟▶️(hoti) ⏏️(ca) ⏏️(na) ⏏️(ca) 🟢⨀🤟▶️(hoti) 🚹⨀①🆎(tathā+gata) ⏏️(paraṃ) 🚻⨀⑤(maraṇa) ⏏️(iti) ⏏️(vā) ⏏️(na) ⏏️(eva) 🟢⨀🤟▶️(hoti) ⏏️(na) ⏏️(na) 🟢⨀🤟▶️(hoti) 🚹⨀①🆎(tathā+gata) ⏏️(paraṃ) 🚻⨀⑤(maraṇa) ⏏️(iti) ⏏️(vā)
what | (question) | indeed | Bho | Moggallāna | reason | what | cause | by which | of other sects | of wanderers | thus | asked | such | an explanation | is | eternal | the world | (end quote) | or | not eternal | the world | (end quote) | or | finite | the world | (end quote) | or | infinite | the world | (end quote) | or | that | the soul | that | the body | (end quote) | or | another | the soul | another | the body | (end quote) | or | remains | the Tathāgata | after | from death | (end quote) | or | not | remains | the Tathāgata | after | from death | (end quote) | or | remains | both | not | and | remains | the Tathāgata | after | from death | (end quote) | or | not | just | remains | not | not | remains | the Tathāgata | after | from death | (end quote) | or
“What, Bho Moggallāna, is the reason, what is the cause, why wanderers of other sects, when asked in this way, give such an explanation: ‘the world is eternal,’ or ‘the world is not eternal,’ or ‘the world is finite,’ or ‘the world is infinite,’ or ‘the soul is the same as the body,’ or ‘the soul is different from the body,’ or ‘a Tathāgata remains after death,’ or ‘a Tathāgata does not remain after death,’ or ‘a Tathāgata both remains and does not remain after death,’ or ‘a Tathāgata neither remains nor does not remain after death’?
1801.2 Ko pana, bho moggallāna, hetu ko paccayo, yena samaṇassa gotamassa evaṃ puṭṭhassa na evaṃ veyyākaraṇaṃ hoti— sassato lokotipi, asassato lokotipi, antavā lokotipi, anantavā lokotipi, taṃ jīvaṃ taṃ sarīrantipi, aññaṃ jīvaṃ aññaṃ sarīrantipi, hoti tathāgato paraṃ maraṇātipi, na hoti tathāgato paraṃ maraṇātipi, hoti ca na ca hoti tathāgato paraṃ maraṇātipi, neva hoti na na hoti tathāgato paraṃ maraṇātipī”ti?
*️⃣🤟🚹⨀①(kiṃ) ⏏️(pana) 🚹⨀⓪(bhavant) 🚹⨀⓪(moggallāna) 🚹⨀①(hetu) *️⃣🤟🚹⨀①(kiṃ) 🚹⨀①(paccaya) *️⃣🤟🚹⨀③(ya) 🚹⨀⑥(samaṇa) 🚹⨀⑥(gotama) ⏏️(evaṃ) 🚹⨀⑥🔽(ta)(puṭṭha) ⏏️(na) ⏏️(evaṃ) 🚻⨀①(veyyākaraṇa) 🟢⨀🤟▶️(hoti) 🚹⨀①(sassata) 🚹⨀①(loka) ⏏️(iti) ⏏️(api) 🚹⨀①🆎(na+sassata) 🚹⨀①(loka) ⏏️(iti) ⏏️(api) 🚹⨀①🔽(vantu)(antavant) 🚹⨀①(loka) ⏏️(iti) ⏏️(api) 🚹⨀①🔽(vantu)🆎(na+antavant) 🚹⨀①(loka) ⏏️(iti) ⏏️(api) *️⃣🤟🚻⨀①(ta) 🚻⨀①(jīva) *️⃣🤟🚻⨀①(ta) 🚻⨀①(sarīra) ⏏️(iti) ⏏️(api) *️⃣🤟🚻⨀①(añña) 🚻⨀①(jīva) *️⃣🤟🚻⨀①(añña) 🚻⨀①(sarīra) ⏏️(iti) ⏏️(api) 🟢⨀🤟▶️(hoti) 🚹⨀①🆎(tathā+gata) ⏏️(paraṃ) 🚻⨀⑤(maraṇa) ⏏️(iti) ⏏️(api) ⏏️(na) 🟢⨀🤟▶️(hoti) 🚹⨀①🆎(tathā+gata) ⏏️(paraṃ) 🚻⨀⑤(maraṇa) ⏏️(iti) ⏏️(api) 🟢⨀🤟▶️(hoti) ⏏️(ca) ⏏️(na) ⏏️(ca) 🟢⨀🤟▶️(hoti) 🚹⨀①🆎(tathā+gata) ⏏️(paraṃ) 🚻⨀⑤(maraṇa) ⏏️(iti) ⏏️(api) ⏏️(na) ⏏️(eva) 🟢⨀🤟▶️(hoti) ⏏️(na) ⏏️(na) 🟢⨀🤟▶️(hoti) 🚹⨀①🆎(tathā+gata) ⏏️(paraṃ) 🚻⨀⑤(maraṇa) ⏏️(iti) ⏏️(api) ⏏️(iti)
what | but | Bho | Moggallāna | reason | what | cause | by which | of the wanderer | Gotama | thus | asked | not | such | an explanation | is | eternal | the world | (end quote) | too | not eternal | the world | (end quote) | too | finite | the world | (end quote) | too | infinite | the world | (end quote) | too | that | the soul | that | the body | (end quote) | too | another | the soul | another | the body | (end quote) | too | remains | the Tathāgata | after | from death | (end quote) | too | not | remains | the Tathāgata | after | from death | (end quote) | too | remains | both | not | and | remains | the Tathāgata | after | from death | (end quote) | too | not | just | remains | not | not | remains | the Tathāgata | after | from death | (end quote) | too | (end quote)
And what, Bho Moggallāna, is the reason, what is the cause, why the samaṇa (wanderer) Gotama, when asked in this way, does not give such an explanation …
1802.1 “Aññatitthiyā kho, vaccha, paribbājakā cakkhuṃ ‘etaṃ mama, esohamasmi, eso me attā’ti samanupassanti…pe… jivhaṃ ‘etaṃ mama, esohamasmi, eso me attā’ti samanupassanti…pe… manaṃ ‘etaṃ mama, esohamasmi, eso me attā’ti samanupassanti.
🚹⨂①🆎(añña+titthiya) ⏏️(kho) 🚹⨀⓪(vaccha) 🚹⨂①(paribbājaka) 🚻⨀②(cakkhu) *️⃣🤟🚻⨀①(eta) *️⃣👆⚧⨀⑥(ahaṃ) *️⃣🤟🚹⨀①(eta) *️⃣👆⚧⨀①(ahaṃ) 🟢⨀👆▶️(atthi) *️⃣🤟🚹⨀①(eta) *️⃣👆⚧⨀⑥(ahaṃ) 🚹⨀①(atta) ⏏️(iti) 🟢⨂🤟▶️(samanupassati) ⏏️(peyyāla) 🚺⨀②(jivhā) *️⃣🤟🚻⨀①(eta) *️⃣👆⚧⨀⑥(ahaṃ) *️⃣🤟🚹⨀①(eta) *️⃣👆⚧⨀①(ahaṃ) 🟢⨀👆▶️(atthi) *️⃣🤟🚹⨀①(eta) *️⃣👆⚧⨀⑥(ahaṃ) 🚹⨀①(atta) ⏏️(iti) 🟢⨂🤟▶️(samanupassati) ⏏️(peyyāla) 🚹⨀②(mano) *️⃣🤟🚻⨀①(eta) *️⃣👆⚧⨀⑥(ahaṃ) *️⃣🤟🚹⨀①(eta) *️⃣👆⚧⨀①(ahaṃ) 🟢⨀👆▶️(atthi) *️⃣🤟🚹⨀①(eta) *️⃣👆⚧⨀⑥(ahaṃ) 🚹⨀①(atta) ⏏️(iti) 🟢⨂🤟▶️(samanupassati)
of other sects | indeed | Vaccha | wanderers | the eye | this | mine | this | I | am | this | my | self | (end quote) | regard | (and so on) | the tongue | this | mine | this | I | am | this | my | self | (end quote) | regard | (and so on) | the mind | this | mine | this | I | am | this | my | self | (end quote) | regard
“Vaccha, wanderers of other sects regard the eye as ‘This is mine, this I am, this is my self,’… the ear as ‘This is mine, this I am, this is my self,’… the nose as ‘This is mine, this I am, this is my self,’… the tongue as ‘This is mine, this I am, this is my self,’… the body as ‘This is mine, this I am, this is my self,’… the mind as ‘This is mine, this I am, this is my self.’
1802.2 Tasmā aññatitthiyānaṃ paribbājakānaṃ evaṃ puṭṭhānaṃ evaṃ veyyākaraṇaṃ hoti— sassato lokoti vā…pe… neva hoti na na hoti tathāgato paraṃ maraṇāti vā.
⏏️(tasmā) 🚹⨂⑥🆎(añña+titthiya) 🚹⨂⑥(paribbājaka) ⏏️(evaṃ) 🚹⨂⑥🔽(ta)(puṭṭha) ⏏️(evaṃ) 🚻⨀①(veyyākaraṇa) 🟢⨀🤟▶️(hoti) 🚹⨀①(sassata) 🚹⨀①(loka) ⏏️(iti) ⏏️(vā) ⏏️(peyyāla) ⏏️(na) ⏏️(eva) 🟢⨀🤟▶️(hoti) ⏏️(na) ⏏️(na) 🟢⨀🤟▶️(hoti) 🚹⨀①🆎(tathā+gata) ⏏️(paraṃ) 🚻⨀⑤(maraṇa) ⏏️(iti) ⏏️(vā)
therefore | of other sects | of wanderers | thus | asked | such | an explanation | is | eternal | the world | (end quote) | or | (and so on) | not | just | remains | not | not | remains | the Tathāgata | after | from death | (end quote) | or
Therefore, when wanderers of other sects are asked in this way, they give such an explanation …
1802.3 Tathāgato ca kho, vaccha, arahaṃ sammāsambuddho cakkhuṃ ‘netaṃ mama, nesohamasmi, na meso attā’ti samanupassati…pe… jivhaṃ ‘netaṃ mama, nesohamasmi, na meso attā’ti samanupassati…pe… manaṃ ‘netaṃ mama, nesohamasmi, na meso attā’ti samanupassati.
🚹⨀①🆎(tathā+gata) ⏏️(ca) ⏏️(kho) 🚹⨀⓪(vaccha) 🚹⨀①(arahant) 🚹⨀①🆎(sammā+sambuddha) 🚻⨀②(cakkhu) ⏏️(na) *️⃣🤟🚻⨀①(eta) *️⃣👆⚧⨀⑥(ahaṃ) ⏏️(na) *️⃣🤟🚹⨀①(eta) *️⃣👆⚧⨀①(ahaṃ) 🟢⨀👆▶️(atthi) ⏏️(na) *️⃣👆⚧⨀⑥(ahaṃ) *️⃣🤟🚹⨀①(eta) 🚹⨀①(atta) ⏏️(iti) 🟢⨀🤟▶️(samanupassati) ⏏️(peyyāla) 🚺⨀②(jivhā) ⏏️(na) *️⃣🤟🚻⨀①(eta) *️⃣👆⚧⨀⑥(ahaṃ) ⏏️(na) *️⃣🤟🚹⨀①(eta) *️⃣👆⚧⨀①(ahaṃ) 🟢⨀👆▶️(atthi) ⏏️(na) *️⃣👆⚧⨀⑥(ahaṃ) *️⃣🤟🚹⨀①(eta) 🚹⨀①(atta) ⏏️(iti) 🟢⨀🤟▶️(samanupassati) ⏏️(peyyāla) 🚹⨀②(mano) ⏏️(na) *️⃣🤟🚻⨀①(eta) *️⃣👆⚧⨀⑥(ahaṃ) ⏏️(na) *️⃣🤟🚹⨀①(eta) *️⃣👆⚧⨀①(ahaṃ) 🟢⨀👆▶️(atthi) ⏏️(na) *️⃣👆⚧⨀⑥(ahaṃ) *️⃣🤟🚹⨀①(eta) 🚹⨀①(atta) ⏏️(iti) 🟢⨀🤟▶️(samanupassati)
the Tathāgata | but | indeed | Vaccha | the liberated one | the perfectly awakened one | the eye | not | this | mine | not | this | I | am | not | my | this | self | (end quote) | regards | (and so on) | the tongue | not | this | mine | not | this | I | am | not | my | this | self | (end quote) | regards | (and so on) | the mind | not | this | mine | not | this | I | am | not | my | this | self | (end quote) | regards
But the Tathāgata, Vaccha, the liberated one, the perfectly awakened one, regards the eye as ‘This is not mine, this I am not, this is not my self,’… the ear as ‘This is not mine, this I am not, this is not my self,’… the nose as ‘This is not mine, this I am not, this is not my self,’… the tongue as ‘This is not mine, this I am not, this is not my self,’… the body as ‘This is not mine, this I am not, this is not my self,’… the mind as ‘This is not mine, this I am not, this is not my self.’
1802.4 Tasmā tathāgatassa evaṃ puṭṭhassa na evaṃ veyyākaraṇaṃ hoti— sassato lokotipi…pe… neva hoti na na hoti tathāgato paraṃ maraṇātipī”ti.
⏏️(tasmā) 🚹⨀⑥🆎(tathā+gata) ⏏️(evaṃ) 🚹⨀⑥🔽(ta)(puṭṭha) ⏏️(na) ⏏️(evaṃ) 🚻⨀①(veyyākaraṇa) 🟢⨀🤟▶️(hoti) 🚹⨀①(sassata) 🚹⨀①(loka) ⏏️(iti) ⏏️(api) ⏏️(peyyāla) ⏏️(na) ⏏️(eva) 🟢⨀🤟▶️(hoti) ⏏️(na) ⏏️(na) 🟢⨀🤟▶️(hoti) 🚹⨀①🆎(tathā+gata) ⏏️(paraṃ) 🚻⨀⑤(maraṇa) ⏏️(iti) ⏏️(api) ⏏️(iti)
therefore | of the Tathāgata | thus | asked | not | such | an explanation | is | eternal | the world | (end quote) | too | (and so on) | not | just | remains | not | not | remains | the Tathāgata | after | from death | (end quote) | too | (end quote)
Therefore, when the Tathāgata is asked in this way, he does not give such an explanation …”